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Speaking
of your own complexity, obviously the Oscar nomination for Before
Night Falls and all of the attention that came with that must have
changed the way that you felt and thought about what you do, and perhaps
even changed the way that you went about it. Is that true? Did it make
things more complicated?
Well, first of all, it changed my attitude. It was very difficult for
me to walk on the street in Madrid. [Chuckles] The popularity level was
very high, and that really drives me nuts because here in Europe we have
these scumbags, this garbage, called paparazzi. They make a fortune chasing
people and even if you want to stay away from them they are in your telephone,
like in my case when I got the nomination. Some journalist - perhaps we
should call them that but I don’t think they are journalists - put
mics on my phone, just to know where I was.
Wow! What do you do in
that case?
I went to the police and they realized that they were under surveillance
and then they quit, but it still took like three weeks.
That's horrible.
Yeah! I wasn't expecting that and I don't like that. I basically do what
I do; I think it's a privilege that I work in something that I like and
that I'm quite well paid for it. But basically I never chose to be popular,
which is absurd and it's in contradiction to my job, I know. But a lot
of actors that I know feel the same and it's true. Expressing a feeling,
expressing a way of watching the world with different eyes, portraying
a character, doesn't have anything to do with being popular and being
recognized on the street. It's not the same thing. So what changed for
me after the Oscar nomination was the perspective that I have about myself.
I became very important in the media. I laughed about myself - I didn't
want to be that important because I don't feel that I'm that important.
Then I received some offers and I keep on receiving offers from the States
but I haven't found what I'm looking for, as U2 would say. All I'm trying
to do is find good material, something that I would be proud of watching.
Is there anything that
you have done over the past couple of years in the whirlwind of all of
this attention that you figured was a mistake or do feel you've really
stuck to who you are and handled everything well?
Well, no, there are many mistakes that I've made. I mean, there are many
things that I've refused to do and I haven't seen all of them but I'm
sure that some of them will be great movies. That I'll know as soon as
I watch them. But the only thing that I know, and I'm happy with that,
is that two choices that I've made - which are Mondays In the Sun
and Dancer Upstairs - I liked them and I felt fine doing
those two different roles and I'm proud of those two movies. So I'm not
sure about what I refused but I'm sure about what I did chose.
That's a good way to think
about it. You must have learned something from watching the members of
your family who'd gone before you in acting and getting into the public
limelight. Obviously things are different about the way that you became
a celebrity for your generation versus your mother's generation. I'm sure
that she didn't have people bugging her telephone to overhear conversations
and whatnot.
No.
Are there certain things
that she or others in your family - your uncle for instance - learned
through their experiences that they passed on to you? And what are some
of the things that have happened to you that you've taught them?
[Chuckles] Let's see. Oh, I don't know. It's a different medium - my mother
usually works in theater. It's like only ten years ago that she’s
working a lot in cinema. So the things that I've learned from her have
to do much more with acting or the way she sees acting, the way to interact
with a job. And the things that I've learned and the things that I'm learning
or I will learn, I don't know if they will be of enough importance to
anybody. I will know that when I'm sixty or seventy.
Going
back again to when you and I first spoke, you brought up a very good point
when people asked if you were going to do more English-language films.
You said the difficulty wasn't necessarily with the content of those movies
and the fact that maybe they wanted you to be some action hero or stud
or something, it was about merely being able to express yourself in English
and the fact that you weren't comfortable enough with the English language
yet to feel you could bring enough emotion to roles by speaking English.
Has that changed? Do you feel better about speaking English?
Well, yes, I think so. I've been working on my English with a coach. I
would like to make more movies out of Spain and I don't know any word
of French or Italian. The only language that I speak a little bit is English
and will work more in that direction. Also I enjoy more the trips and
the chance that I have to know places if I speak a language. So it's not
only about movies, it's about my private life also. So yes, I think my
English is getting stronger now. I've done two movies in English and will
do more but it depends on the role. If the role has a weight, if a character
has an emotional journey and has some values, I think I can bring that
to reality. But if the role is almost nothing, only a man talking, then
I would be very bad in that, because I can barely talk.
[Laughs] You're doing very
well I have to say. Along the same lines, do you think that American audiences
and Hollywood in general are becoming more open to non-English films?
Spanish-language films have become hugely popular over the past couple
of years, so do you feel something like Mondays In the Sun has
a better chance with audiences here even if it isn't in English than it
would have a couple of years ago?
Yeah, of course. I think Almodovar has done a great, amazing job - he
has been like ambassador! A great ambassador of not only Spanish movies
but European movies; he's brought people to the movie theaters to watch
those films and make the people get used to reading subtitles. It's not
only him - there are a lot of directors like him - but is the only Spaniard
that has done that. And yes, I would like to think that some people will
go and watch Mondays In the Sun and not have problems with reading
subtitles. We don't have problems reading subtitles when they are in English.
I think that foreign movies - except from those foreign movies which are
huge hits like Crouching Tiger or even Almodovar - are usually
watched by people from the film industry, not a big audience, and I'm
fine with that. It's an honor for me to be able to show my work to the
people that I admire, that I would like to work with.
But I love audiences, of course!
I would love that every movie I make is full of people but that you can't
chose. I mean, you can chose to make a big blockbuster movie and even
if you don't know that it's going to work you more or less know that it's
going to be a successful movie and a hit. I haven't chosen any movie like
that, so I'm used to making little movies and being fine with that. For
example, Mondays In the Sun has been a huge success in Spain;
in Spain I would say that mostly every movie I've made has been huge.
But the States is different, and I'm fine with that - my ambition is not
that big.
What's the difference between
the way things work in Madrid - like your day-to-day life - versus the
way things are here? You mentioned that you can't really walk on the streets
anymore. Can you do that when you come to L.A.?
I would say some famous actors that I know have come here to Spain or
to Madrid and they say that maybe this is the worst city to be famous.
Really?
Yes, because people here are very affective, emotional, much too open.
So they go to you and they touch you and they embrace you, and they are
nice but they are very all over you, you know? So when you come here for
a week, maybe it's too much. When you live here… [Chuckles] You
have to really, um, I don't know, be careful. It's difficult for me -
I don't like to be recognized. I told you that it's a contradiction to
be an actor and not like to be recognized, but it's true. It's something
that I can't help. When I go to other cities that problem doesn't exist,
because if I take an airplane and I go to Paris or Rome or L.A. or New
York, I'm Mister Nobody, and I'm fine with that. I can't imagine what
it's like to be a famous world star like Tom Cruise. That must be something
really hard.
But you would never move
from Madrid or Spain because of that?
Sometimes I feel like moving, yes, but I don't know if it will be to States.
I think it will be to Europe or Rome, I don't know. But I'm fine with
this - I mean, I'm very stuck in my roots, much more than I would like,
because that makes it difficult for me to move.
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