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And
do you feel you have a certain responsibility now because of the project
as sort of global ambassadors or artistic revolutionaries rather than
just musicians/artists?
Jamie: No. Just to be true
to ourselves, our own tastes, and our own hearts.
What's the feedback on the
final product been from musicians and speakers who participated?
I assume the likes of Michael Stipe have seen and heard it
Jamie: Michael said it was
"triumphant". Everyone loves it - thankGod!
Speaking of which, you mentioned
God and in a lot of what people say is a bunch of what could be considered
very controversial opinion. I'm wondering if you were able to really
keep an open mind doing this or if there were some things that people
said that really bugged you guys personally.
Jamie: I didn't have a totally
open mind, personally. There were certain things about the abuse of Christianity
in the world that I had no two minds about - I wanted them to be communicated
and I knew that Tom Robbins felt the same way and I knew that the moment
I asked him about it that he was going to put it in a way that I could
never put it. That was a definite, you know? Christianity has caused more
pain and suffering that any other organization since the beginning of
time, and the whole idea of the amount of money there is in the Vatican,
and them with their huge gold candlesticks, Christ just would not stand
for that! That needs to be communicated, and Gabrielle Roth and Tom Robbins
did a beautiful job of that. So there were definite issues where there
was no open mind going on at all - we wanted to communicate something
and said, "This needs to be talked about!" (Pause) But the funny
thing is that when somebody said something that really bugged us, that
was more reason to put it in! You know what I mean? Like the Australian
politician [who tries to justify the genocide of the Aboriginal people]-
on the one hand I was getting irritated but on the other hand I was thinking,
"This is gonna be fucking great!" (Laughs)
What about you, Duncan?
Duncan: I actually think that
yeah, we had an open mind, but you attract to you - in the same way with
musicians - we attracted the kind of musicians that we thought would fit
and would work. And although we aren't trying to put a message across,
the film in a way does confirm where we're coming from. And we were very
careful
we didn't want it to be that way, but obviously, you
know, like, we're doing the edit, so we choose what goes in it. To put
the racist in but then put him with an Aboriginal guy being really amazing,
then that juxtaposition works. But what was really great is that we have
a rabbi in the film, the rabbi from Thailand, and he says things like,
"Judaism isn't the only way to God. For a Jew, it's the way to God
and everybody can find their own way to God in whatever way they think
works." And so many people said to us
it's funny, it's a message
that we didn't actually get in a film: Before you look at somebody else's
culture, make sure you understand your own culture and where you're coming
from. That was the one thing that blew my mind and quite a lot of people
said that to us, and it's a really interesting idea because we all like
to dabble in a little bit of this or a little bit of that, but to actually
look at who am I, where am I from
.
The films and music hit
me deeply on a personal level, as a Mexican-American who has been struggling
with my heritage all my life.
Duncan: The incredible thing
about culture is I think it's a lot stronger than people give it credit
for.
Jamie: It's a residual thing.
Duncan: Everybody's worried
about globalization and that we're gonna lose all the different
languages and cultures - no way! Although you go to Thailand and it's
kind of the same with high-rise buildings and the same big businesses,
but it's a different place altogether. The culture of Thai life shines
through that concrete. And every place you go with a big concrete clump,
it's still very different to the other one in another country.
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